A child has this relationship to a creative force, you know? Yeah, your parents gradually, you know, they gradually shove your face in the concrete, and so do your teachers and school system and…everything's working against you, but…but…but the force of creativity nature is not working against you - it's right there for you, at any time! You just…you know, you just have to be ready not to judge yourself and to be open to whatever's gonna come through you and to-to be ready to not…to not…eeeh to not judge what comes through, but be alright with it, whatever it is, cause it's just the universe of expressing yourself.

On "The Heart is a Drum Machine" Documentary