We were selling books, and right next to us was an old man. [...] he was a holistic nutritionist, and he was talking to us about how you shouldn't really eat animals and things of that nature … and he pulled up his shirt and the man had the abs of a 15-year-old. He says to us [...] How old do you think I am? And we thought he was about 50 years old, and he's like, I'm 86 years old. … We looked at each other, me and my friends, and we were, like, when we're 86, we want to be like that …. So that's what started it.

Interview by Peta2, after the release of his album Divine Design (2003)