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I've found that at times that question and the dubiousness that I seem to exude has given people something — not simply gossip or whether God is going to smite them for liking our band, but actually they've found strength and become more comfortable with who they are as a person. It's pansexual, that sort of reach. It's a wonderful side effect of what we're doing, to give someone the strength to come out of the closet to their family, or simply present themselves aesthetically in a way they feel happy with, whether or not their friends are going to be allowed to like them anymore. So it's actually a really cool side effect to all the rumors.
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More often than not, even the people and even the moments and even the circumstances that you feel you can go to for stability, for that piece of happiness, can all of a sudden shift, and can all of a sudden become tainted. And everything that you believe, or even that small moment of connection that you can feel can sometimes be destroyed. And I'm not a negative person — shockingly. I'm somewhat of a realist. And I'm a very passionate person, so I don't like to expect that shift, I don't like to expect for things that I love to become malignant or to become a great disappointment. But it happens. And it's devastating. Every time.
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I miss having to wonder about any aspect of an artist's life. [This] was a luxury we don't have anymore. Whether it's the people surrounding them revealing things about their process or their personal lives, or the artists themselves going on Twitter and telling you what they're doing in the middle of the night with their girlfriend — it's like, 'Wow, um... I really liked you better before you told me that. I really would like to go back to imagining the person that I was imagining.'
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Well I think that my main concern is that there is a market lack of desire for quote-unquote art that people are creating and appreciating. I think because there's a lack of desire for that, which translates to the creation and elevation of art that then thereby lack substance because there's no desire for it, there's no appreciation for it. It self-perpetuates a world in which the hollow, the vapid and the greedy are elevated and revered. That bothers me because art is so important whether it's design, fine art, film, fashion, things that are important to the world. It's what makes me want to wake up in the morning, it drives me.
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It'd be great if the record industry wasn't completely falling apart and people's interest in music wasn't totally disappearing. It's sad on a cultural level. Not even from the perspective of being in a band, just as a fan. It's heartbreaking to see how little music means to people in modern times. And people say, No, no, no — music means more than ever before! People are consuming music at a greater rate! Well, that doesn't mean anything, that's just a statistic. All that's saying is that people are downloading music more than before. That doesn't mean that they're listening to it, that they know anything about it, or that they're going to see it.
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Look at who people are elevating and deifying in the public eye, and ask yourself what those people have done to receive such lauding and what it is they haven't. When you look at that you say, okay, are these people being revered for something of merit, or are they completely hallow? Or even worse, are they being revered for something that is actually destructive?
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It's not a matter of imaging, despite what a lot of people would feel that it is. I've never presented myself in a way that I don't feel comfortable with; I've never presented myself in a way to appeal to anybody. For the most part the way I've always looked to not appeal to most people. Really, my aesthetic was really more of a terrorism or violence than it was something to attract; more of a representation of my detachment than anything else — though it's not always a very conscious thing.
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Q: Especially starting off in punk and hardcore like you did, you're taking a huge risk by constantly expanding your sound, and it's something you've gotten a lot of flack for. Have you reconciled yourselves to that?
A: Absolutely. It's something that we accepted very early on. It really comes from the ethos of being a punk and hardcore band. It was really because we just didn't give a fuck. In the same way that we were playing punk and hardcore and didn't give a fuck that anybody liked it, we continued to write and play what we liked and didn't give a fuck if anybody liked it. Our hope is that people do like it, but if they have an issue with it, it doesn't matter because we're doing what makes us happy.
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I really think for the good of this world that, if I could have it my way, the whole world would be vegan and straightedge. So that's why I feel it's important to create an awareness of this lifestyle, create an awareness of the choices people make. To bring awareness about those lifestyles can bring a positive change, if only on the level of an individual.
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(age 49)
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