[Becoming an artist] is my profession, yes [to be an artist] but a calling.. that a little bit pathetic, a little bit bombastic. I think it was much more natural... I Thought – when I was a child – the only method to be not in the world but outside of the world is to be an artist. I feel me outside, yes..

'Tim Marlow joins Anselm Kiefer to discuss his work'